Reflecting on progress of investing at a landscape scale (Podcast episode)

From Fiji to Slovakia and from Gabon to Scotland. Lab Director, Paul Chatterton caught up with Koen van Seijen on our current work to finance the regeneration of 85m hectares across 16 landscapes through a holistic system that “builds industries as a whole”.


How do we finance regeneration at a landscape scale level? How is “building the industry as a whole” key towards sustainability? How does the young generation view regeneration? How do ‘investment vehicles’ impact the way businesses operate?

“I think we’re starting to see some amazing results around the planet. The future is extraordinary. What’s happening right now is really quite extraordinary.” – Paul Chatterton  

Synergy Among Different Industries

While it’s truly the million-dollar investments that sustain operations, Paul believes that it’s the holistic building of industries that matters the most. This is also what makes scaling possible and sustainable. As an example, Paul mentions how we can protect some key wildlife corridors, but at the same time make room for the logging sector by strategically placing the logging in areas where forests can be restored. By building the industry as a whole, even “competing industries” can benefit from each other and produce greater results.

“When you start looking at this next level of scale, you can actually find synergies between different industries that in the past have been competitors. And that’s where it gets really exciting.” – Paul Chatterton  

The Younger Generation’s Perspective 

Paul also points out how young land owners are becoming interested in sharing their land to the community. Many are starting to see the opportunity to maximize  their lands’ value by exploring things in various ventures. Some of the possibilities Landscape Finance Lab is also interested in looking into are agricultural ventures and tourism activities. One of the things is to build places in rural areas of Scotland where city people can migrate in. This poses a lot of promise as many people are working from home and may be in need of places where they can work from home, but at the same time relax.

“In working with their communities, they’re seeing that it makes sense that you can grow your business by sharing the value of your land. You can grow it even more than trying to do it by yourself.” – Paul Chatterton  

The Projects We Need 

One of the challenges with landscape programs is their “moving parts,” making them hard to manage holistically. The secret is to formulate reliable investment vehicles that work for each business model to balance the risks. Paul also notes the importance of investors becoming part of the process, especially problem solving, so they can fully understand and gain confidence with the business models.

“We need super exciting projects that are really boring structurally so that the bankers don’t get scared.” – Paul Chatterton  

Koen and Paul also talked about the following:

  • The leaders in landscapes investment space at the moment
  • Investing in landscapes
  • The risks of climate change in landscape
  • Measuring biodiversity
  • The role of tech in landscapes
  • The Climate Bonds Initiative
  • What has changed in the landscapes over the last 2,5 yeras
  • Large money is moving in, many people are setting up funds
  • We need to figure out a shared way of measuring biodiversity as soon as possible
  • The landscape regeneration industry is(slowly)being build – investable products are coming!


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